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Old 09-26-2018, 10:07 PM
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This is actually my dads truck, as i'm a bad influence on him. After joining me at several scale rc truck meets he became convinced that he needed his own truck. This is truck 2...

The goal, model "High Fenders" a 1956 FWD fire engine run as "Engine 2" by Washington Twp. VFD in Indianapolis, IN. They operated it as a front line engine from '56 up until it was replaced by a Mack about '76, not sure how long it stayed on reserve status. This was his favorite apparatus while he was a fireman, and served on her for many years.

Because...


Highfenders with the Snorkle in service 1970s


Latest known picture of her after leaving Washington Twp, going to work in Arcadia IN, now in barn of a private collector.


Starting point, jjrc Q61 , 4 wheel truck version of a zil-157


Wheelbase stretch and starting to reconfigure.


Might need longer rails to punch it out enough, gotta try mockups though.

Unfortunately the donor is closer to a 1949 FWD than the correct one, but we'll figure something out. Four Wheel Drive corporation has an interesting history, i'll probably go into it more as the build goes on.

This beast had a straight-piped gas engine, that with the stations bay door open could be heard crackling to life several miles away as the rest of the firemen were already rolling toward the scene or firehouse.

Reference material is scarce, it's not even listed on
http://www.indianafiretrucks.com/Default.aspx

I think it needs a Federal Q with a Grover Airhorn
https://www.modeltrainsoftware.com/c...r-your-diecast

It's going to get an led rotator gumball light on top, and many other body lights. The KingHauler seems to have a pretty close set as turnsignals for the flashers.

Here's a ride along of a "1958 FWD Fire Truck", because fire engines are sweet

Better ride

Walkaround a 53

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Old 09-27-2018, 12:52 AM
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Ha-ha he's in hook, line and sinker! I was a little confused for a minute until I read four wheel drive, usually over here fwd would mean front wheel drive (or forward like maybe forward control). I was thinking front wheel drive fire truck would be a really cool oddball but they must've had some reason for it... 4wd and it all made sense lol.

Its going to be a really cool addition and you can provide escort duty for it when its siren time.
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Yeah, i'm pretty sure he's in Hook & Ladder...

If the barn pic of High Fenders hadn't surfaced right after the first truck arrived, and seeing how close the cabs looked, this wouldn't be a thing.

I'm playing around with cardboard and light sizes, trying to get a feel for this so i can have patterns when i get plastic.

Arcadia IN is in Jackson township, of Hamilton county.
http://www.indianafiretrucks.com/Reg...lton&Region=EC
https://sites.google.com/jacksonfire...fire-dept/home
So hopefully i can get more detail pics. Also have to see if my dad can get a hold of current owner for some pics.

It should go beyond just escort soon and we can provide more emergency services. He'll have the FWD Engine, i'll have Adam12 Police, hopefully my Econoline Ambulance can mark in service pretty soon.

Plus i've got a either an Amercian LaFrance pumper or a Tiller Ladder that i'd love to convert later. The ALF looks awesome, but the tiller would be fun to learn to drive from both ends.
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Old 09-27-2018, 07:11 PM
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That's really going to be a cool fleet ..... "incident at the coner of 1st & Main, all units respond. All units respond..."

Well you would if you had enough hands
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I fired up "CAD" to see what kind of setup we're looking at with the current punched out wheelbase...



The cardboard didn't want to stay creased at the top of the bed.

Profile looks pretty good, but i dunno if it's high fenders. Looks like we're gonna need something like either a wpl b16, or jjrc q60 frame rails
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Looks good but I get the same impression as you I think.. needs to be a touch longer. The barn find pic suggested its quite long for a single axle rear. If you went for a q60, would that nose work for your diamond t truck as well? (Just trying to give you more incentive to buy more trucks hehe)
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Old 10-01-2018, 06:20 PM
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Round 2


Getting better, maybe need a bit longer in the pump panel area.

I picked up a 'Molotow liquid chrome' pen, one of my friends that does 1/56 scale said it's next best thing below sending it to the platers or vaccum metalizing.

He picked up some 1/16 diamond plate, and ladders. I may yank the suction hoses off a Nylint pumper, 550 paracord outer sleeve should work for folded hoses in bed, probably silicone filler rod for hose on the reel. I think i can build a Federal Q out of the light lens i stuck on fender in mockup 1.

I've been researching more and the '39 Diamond-T Boyle hauler seems to need a King Hauler cab with some Custom rubbed on it.
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:16 AM
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How's the CAD going? Did you end up going longer again?

I'm going to leave these here just because .... it's darn purdy

I know, its a 48 diamond t but still...
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I'm having him order the 6x6 frame, seemed easier than splicing in a stretch. Looks like it should end up with the single axle somewhere about where the aft axle on them normally sits. Which is that longer cardstock bed plus about 1/2" (1.5 cm?) more at the pump panel. Then a step bumper will hang off the back a bit more.

We also knocked out a rough sketch of the back for configuration of the tank, hosebed, grab bars, lights, step bumper.

Looks like we've gotta make a few minor detail things like pond strainer, hose nozzles, extension ladder, hose reels, hoses, eves ladder, pike pole, preconnects, panel latches.... It's a good thing he likes fire apparatus and not something that's really detailed.

That's a cool truck! I'll have to see if parts of his "not-a-fire-engine" may want to grow into that.
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If that truck could be fully RC with functional lift etc.. that would be epic. Bet the old man would love towing the kombi to the impound lot with that.

You might have to come up with a few more details for the fire truck.. sounds a bit boring at the moment
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I'll add this one to the mix too, as soon as I saw it I thought of your growing fleet.

Found it on FB and thought it was cool. Don't think I've ever seen one like that before and I reckon it'd be a cool dumper in RC.
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I just ment more like copy the cab details, i think he's gonna stay with the 6x6 as an open bed. The 4x4 is getting stretched out to the fire.

Why does everyone want to tow the vw?
If i found the right donor truck i wouldn't be opposed to having a tow-truck with probably Texaco, Gulf, or Sinclair gas station livery.
Or maybe the eventual Boyle Hauler could get a pin on wheel lift that uses a winch so it could take 1 flat on the ramped tiltbed, and 1 wheels down.

I'd seen some of the self loading dumptrucks before, they're weird even for my stuff.

Fire Apparatus is cool. I'm wondering about some Bruder firemen, then reworking their helmets
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What can I say.. veedubs just seem at home on the back of a tow truck...often half burned up from a fuel leak.

I like the thought of the texico or whichever themed tow, they made some very pretty trucks back in the day. Fire trucks are always awesome regardless.

I got a bit lost there.. so he's got a 6x6 flat bed build and a stretched 4x4 fire truck, correct? (Don't mind me I'm just tired)
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Yeah, this FWD is a stretched 4x

His mostly stock 6x
http://www.scale4x4rc.org/forums/sho...78#post1064978

I thought towing VWs was more about burned valves on #3 cyl from going uphill with a headwind. How hard is it to string fuel lines every 20 years or so? (Sounds like you need to get a Dickie bus and weather it like it's had a fire)
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A lot of life happened, still don't have the new chassis to start designing around. So rather than take a cab only frame to the meet, i guess let's make it into some kinda hose-wagon brushfire rig. I dunno, let's say forestry service for now.

Couple of Bruder firemen have joined the department.


Catch a hydrant to setup a forward lay


Horseshoe hose setup in the bed. Yes, it flakes off correctly.
550 paracord outer layer, would be about 3" line, but it was on hand and looks close.


The town said i need 2 to operate the truck. Nailed it!

Uh, nothing...
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